Saturday, March 24, 2007
Pyromaniancs Banned on DTS Campus
I thought the Pyro Boys would get a kick out of this one. They are now banned on the DTS campus. Yes, they have skills . . . but they are "Criminal Skills"!
Subscribe to:
Post Comments (Atom)
Posts
23 comments:
Hilarious.
Jonathan, do you care to offer up your opinion as to why this is?
Didn't J.N.Darby treat people who disagreed with him in similar fashion? Like father, like son.
No way! That's got to be Tongue-in-cheek.
If it isn't, it's sad indeed.
I seriously doubt it is a deliberate thing. I assume it is automated based upon some content on the blog - something Frank Turk has written no doubt.
Mark, are you sure Darby's separationism originated in his dispensationalism? . . . or could it have been based on his Calvinism? Eek!
Ah, but to whose criminal skills are they referring?
Just what *were* you doing on the computer at DTS that day?
Hmmm, weren't you supposed to be presenting a paper....?
;-)
So how did it go Saturday plagerizing in the library, I mean, presenting on campus?
J.N. Darby was not nasty.
He could be a little belligerent in attacking what he saw as error and his separatism might be objectionable to some.
However, he always spoke well of two of his opponents, Muller and B.W. Newton.
God Bless
Matthew
I was able to check Pyromaniacs at home and did not find anything on a recent post that would merit a web block. The only thing I can think of is that the name "Pyromaniacs" sounds criminal.
Our next question is if the Pyro boys should be concerned with the appearance of evil to a computer.
Susan, very funny. The ETS conference was actually at Southwestern Baptist Seminary in Fort Worth. When I checked the room that I was supposed to read in, I found out it was in the main auditorium! All in all I think it went well and I finished right at the 50 minute mark - which left no time for questions - PERFECT!
The DTS class on Friday went good as far as I can tell too. Feedback after class was very encouraging. I WILL do a series on that because I loved the study and I think we all can agree on what I consider to be the main point of the Tribulation. We'll get to that later. Thanks for asking, Susan.
From what I've read it was that little system that he devised that caused Muller to walk away. Also some of the papers I've linked to in my blogroll present Darby as a very unpleasant mean spirited autocrat within his particular division of The Brethren. He also generated plenty of ill will towards The Metropolitan Tabernacle, inspiring his associates to leave tracts denouncing said ministry on its front door.
Yeah, a real nice guy.
Blue,
Darby generated ill will toward the Met Tab? I didn't know that! Gives me one more reason....
Dave
Dave, go to...
http://www.spurgeon.org/s_and_t/pb.htm
How in the world did this thread get on Darby?! Oh, don't remind me. You might be surprised to know that you don't have to be dispensational or even premillennial to attend DTS.
"Criminal Skilz," huh?
Someone there must've caught me hacking through the files, looking for S. Lewis Johnson's old class notes.
Hilarious! Proof that some things never change--we were at DTS in the late 80's/early 90's.
And, yip, you're right you don't have to be disp. or premil. to attend DTS--kept things very interesting.
I wouldn't judge dispensationalism by Darby's personal character. I've read negative comments about Calvin's treatment of his opponents, but that doesn't take away from the truth of the doctrines of grace.
Mark, yes, Darby was hostile Spurgeon's ministry. But Spurgeon was not exactly friendly to Darby either.
However, many of his followers, particularly his later followers respected Spurgeon. Most moderate Exclusive Brethren and Open Brethren value Spurgeon's sermons.
"From what I've read it was that little system that he devised that caused Muller to walk away."
Muller disagreed with Darby over the rapture, but the Muller-Darby split had nothing to do with eschatology.
Darby rejected Muller because of his inconsistency with regard to false doctrine.
Muller and his supporters took little interest in being reconciled with Darby and his supporters.
The many attempts to blacken the name of Darby are tiresome and inaccurate. While many have a basis in fact, they tend to be very one-sided.
Darby was just as great a man as Spurgeon.
Every Blessing in Christ
Matthew
So Matthew, how much of Darby's system did Muller embrace?
Although J.N. Darby was born from heaven after the Spirit, he was also Irish according to the flesh. The Irish love a fight, so did Darby's 'natural man'. Darby was a strong personality who didn't back down easily. Yet who is there who does not have some weakness? Muller was Prussian, and he suffered from the Prussian inability to back down. Which is a major reason why he and Darby separated. Darby's Irish verus Muller's Prussian! The irresistible force and the immovable object!!!
(P.S. Very much tongue-in-cheek!!!)
FWIW, I spoke with the IT guys at DTS (great guys BTW), and they have connected our vendor to reclassify Pryomaniacs. Although I have not verified with them, I assume the "Criminal Skills" is in reference to the name "Pyromaniac," not the content.
IOW, there is no insidious DTS scheme to censor our beloved Pryos.
Mark, Muller was not radically different from Darby in theology.
Muller was a moderate Calvinist who believed, like Darby that believers should meet simply in the name of the Lord.
Muller rejected infant baptism, unlike Darby, however, he agreed with Darby that the issue should not divide Christians.
Muller did disagee with Darby over eldership, Muller believed that it was possible and necessary for assemblies to appoint elders. However, he agrees with Darby that preachers should not receive a fixed salary.
I suspect Muller probably held to the imputed righteousness of Christ, unlike Darby.
Muller rejected Darby's Dispensationalism and Pre-Tribulationalism, however, he was a Premillennialist who expected a future tribulation and personal Antichrist.
Every Blessing in Christ
Matthew
"Muller rejected Darby's Dispensationalism and Pre-Tribulationalism, however, he was a Premillennialist who expected a future tribulation and personal Antichrist."
A man after my own heart!
Hey Jonathan. I got to school with you at DTS.
I noticed that on Monday and thought I'd hit the wrong Google search. Maybe those cheap grace folks are getting their revenge this way?
I seriously doubt it is a deliberate thing. I assume it is automated based upon some content on the blog - something Frank Turk has written no doubt.
Too funny, but somehow...it rings true...;)
Post a Comment